Reading Response 4

Rhetoric

Before reading this I would not have been able to create a similar definition of the word rhetoric based on my own knowledge. The article defines a rhetoric as “the purposeful use of language and images.” The only thing that came to my mind was that annoying response someone gives you saying “I was being rhetorical.” From that statement I would then define rhetoric as something that you already knew and was not mean’t to inspire further conversation.

I suppose this would mean that the topic of our argumentative essay is our “rhetorical situation” and the problem we see within the topic is our “rhetorical exigence.” That means that the people our argument is directed at, those who can actually act upon our reasoning, becomes the “rhetorical audience.” Finally, the message you are displaying to this audience becomes your “rhetorical purpose.”

My first question would be based off of this quote from the article:

“Ideally,Ā persuasion results in both you and your audience being changed by the experience.”

I’m not entirely sure why the person doing the persuading is going to be changed by the experience, unless change only refers to a status progression in the same direction. Of course the audience should experience a change in view or opinion but the persuader changing his view seems counter productive.

My next question is about why we choose to ignore rhetorical exigences when they apply to us. An example would be how I wished there was a creative writing class in high school, but I never went anywhere with it until this class, despite seeing the exigence, having purpose, and knowing resolutions.

Glenn JohnL

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5 Responses to “Reading Response 4”

  1. I agree that if the persuader changed his view then they would just be back tracking. We both seem to think that in order for the persuader to be influential, then the audience must experience some sort of change. The person persuading is trying to bring about change, obviously, which might be what Glenn is getting at as far as what change the persuader is receiving. For your second question, I really think people are just lazy and if the problem takes to much effort to change, then they aren’t willing to put forth the effort. Then again, sometimes if it is a large problem, it can be out of the persons reach to change it by themselves. If no others are helping, then there isn’t much they can do.

  2. The writer can be effected by what he writes if he writes as a process of discovery, or as a conversation. If you know that you want to write on something, but have not sorted out all the points in your argument yet, then writing the piece will forse you to get all of these things organized, and can effect your view of the subject as well. If you are writing to exposit or just document what is being said on a subject, then gathering all this knowledge, and especially using it to engage in conversation will change your viewpoints.

  3. I think you both get changed while trying to persuade because you get to hear both sides of the opinion and you get persuaded by them in a way.

  4. I similarly don’t see how I will be persuaded by my own persuasion. You’ve already heard your own opinion so I’m not sure why the person persuading will be changed by the experience.

  5. i liked how you talked about what you originally thought what rhetorical situations were and how reading this paper helped identify its true meaning. when you used the quote, “i was being rhetorical” i sat there and thought about situations that someone would say that. that quote does smudge the true meaning of rhetorical situations if the person saying that doesnt truely know and then it confuses people like me. lol. good thing we now have the knowledge from this article to properly use that saying.
    the rhetor might change by status. if he persuaded his audience to an extent that he becomes well known in the situation he is talking about, the fame will change the rhetor. then he will become more passionate about the rhetorical situation to keep his new status. thats the only way i could see the rhetor changing.

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